mustang 2 front end conversion. what all do i need?

dalton65f2 · Post by **dalton65f2** » January 20, 2011, 6:06 pm

looking for a streetable everyday driver setup. will switch over to power brakes. possibly power steering. =is there a kit out there?

William-in-St George · January 20, 2011, 6:54 pm

First, Patience. Then a pretty good wad of cash. Watch for e-bay deals or truck magazine ad's. You will get a modern front suspension with disk brakes and rack and pinion steering. Properly installed will allow you to safely lower your truck and control it at hiway speeds. Or you could concentrate on school and just drive your truck as is. Keep reading on this site and others nearby and learn about your truck and this fun hobby.

34rdztr · Post by **34rdztr** » January 20, 2011, 7:51 pm

we are presently doing a mustang II front in my 64. you can buy a kit but is expensive in one sense but easier in another...do a lil shopping for parts and can save you some cash....and yes,ck on ebay for deals for the parts you need..eddie

cooter · Post by **cooter** » January 20, 2011, 7:56 pm

i was lucky to pick up a very well built tubular controlarm mustang 2 which is built heavier than most from Macgyvers rod and custom but they went under about 3 months ago after 20 years. If you look at some websites they show everything needed to perform the operation.

Brian Taylor · Post by **Brian Taylor** » January 20, 2011, 8:55 pm

For the price and easy of install, I am very impressed by the crown vic front end. Look into all options before committing. I have been looking for options too and the CV has it all in one package.

34rdztr · Post by **34rdztr** » January 20, 2011, 9:25 pm

Power by Ford · Post by **Power by Ford** » January 20, 2011, 9:33 pm

If not the Crown Vic, the Jaguar look like a great, affordable option with better track width. If going aftermarket the No Limit wide ride is a very good kit for our trucks.IMO

Post by **Greg D** » January 20, 2011, 9:52 pm

M II would not be my first choice.
Ken (Castruck) has a friend that had a horrible time with one - truck was just scary to drive. Geometry was all wrong for a truck with a center of gravity as high as one of these trucks - yes even lowered.

Rusty 63 · Post by **Rusty 63** » January 21, 2011, 6:24 am

I'm a fan of the CV (being in the process of installing one) but if you have your heart set on M2 - Google "Welder Series". They're laser-cut, tabbed metal origami that you bend & fold & weld up yourself. Save a ton of cash.

The CV could still be cheaper.

cooter · Post by **cooter** » January 21, 2011, 6:33 am

i chose m2 simply because of the width and the choise of bolt patterns, but their are some pretty cheap m2 control arms out there (quality)

PFM-64f100 · Post by **PFM-64f100** » January 21, 2011, 9:27 am

If this is for the 65-F250 you have then you will lose the 8 lugs and the heavy front end. Just something to think of.

Any reason your thinking of going MII instead of keeping the Twin I beam you already have? Converting to Disc and power steering is a lot easier I think.

You could also do a hydro boast brake system really easy. 1998 ish to 2004 ish mustang GT has a Hydro that is perfect for the 65...

64low-n-slow · Post by **64low-n-slow** » January 22, 2011, 2:24 am

I agree with PFM. Coming from a guy who is VERY satisfied with w MII set-up in a '64, you already have IFS. Look into a set of drop I Beams, then convert newer spindles w/ disc brakes and power steering and you have the best of all worlds. From there, lower the back however much you want, upgrade to a dual master cylinder and you have a truck that looks great, drives well, and is safe and reliable. And you're in for less than HALF the price of a good MII setup.

If you're still hung up on making a big change, the crown vic is the most affordable, easiest way to go.

Great to see the young guys appreciating Slicks!

Good luck!

DV65CustomCab · Post by **DV65CustomCab** » January 22, 2011, 8:32 am

I'm with the late, great Garbz on feeling the M II is a poor choice. This is a suspension engineered for a little car. It was never intended to carry the weight of a big truck. It's popularity only exists because they were once plentiful junkyard sourceable and offered a lot in a compact package, but it's really 1970 technology with mediocre geometry. There are far better choices now available (Crown Vic and Aerostar being two).

If you're starting with a Twin I setup there really isn't much advantage over just doing drop beams and a disc conversion other than the slow truck steering box. But these things aren't exactly canyon carvers no matter what you do.

6166 Junkyard Dog · Post by **6166 Junkyard Dog** » January 22, 2011, 8:51 am

Mustang II Are for trailer queen trucks,, with the way todays roads are in some states rough Mustang II will never take the hard use,, Mustang II trucks have seen so many for sale after done cause its just a plain piece of xxxx choice and if it was free still would not use and on 65/66 trucks so many choices for upgrades and rememeber talk to people at shows when seeing one to get there opinion or even test run,,,, also both short bed and long bed trucks will do different things on handling so if going for a test drive be sure doing same body style truck

mustang II nothing but a gloryfied Pinto or Bobact

Post by **Greg D** » January 22, 2011, 8:50 pm

Aarons428 welded a Torino stub onto his frame. I have ridden in this truck and you couldn't ask for better.
Sawzalling a Torino stub off in a junkyard would be WAY cheaper than any M II setup.